Wolfgang:

I am perfectly open to the possibility that an apparent OBE is illusory. But I am required by my sense of integrity not to assume my perceptions were other than I saw them to be, at the time; if adding more data in a good scientific sense, modifies that, well, so be it -- any model should be open to change. What a dull life it would be if I thought any model was comlete and unchangeable. I have seen enough instances of apparent violations of the "bag of skin seperate from all others" model of human nature that I am pretty sure it is flawed. If a bunch of other individuals believe I am wrong, I am open to their explanation as to why, if they have ojne that is not authoritarian. So I don't think I am close-minded.

Stimulation of a brain segment producing an OOB experience is one paper I have not read -- do have easy access to the name of it or where it could be found?

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