And Bobert, I apologize that I am such a lightning rod for Big Mick and his Band of Bullies, that we can't have a decent, reasonable discussion about Nader anymore. But do know that I'm listening. I just think I won't be posting much about Nader anymore, because Big Mick is going use every one of posts for target practice, obviously.

Maybe we can chat in threads about corn bread or something. But the military Mudcatters have made it impossible for me to participate in any of these threads, so I'll be bowing out for awhile.