Not only do the Mudcat Vietnam vets continue to bully anyone who disagrees with them these days, and attempted to shove their deluded notions of themselves as romantic nationalist warriors down everyone's throats here, but they are also taking over any conversations having to do with Nader.

Big Mick, Teribus, Norton 1, Chief Chaos, et al have gone far beyond stalking the anti-militarists here, and have moved into sniper mode.

I apologize to no one for being morally and ethically opposed to the nationalist institutions of the US military industrial complex, including the nationalist holidays for warrior worshipping that keeps the cannon fodder coming.

However, I'm not attacking the posts of the Vietnam vets here. If anyone would bother to read these threads carefully enough, they would see that the vets are attacking anyone who doesn't dance to their tune. They might "politely" disagree with some here they feel they can't easily attack, like Bobert or CarolC. But the minute someone criticizes them, they get very personal, some even obsessed as Big Mick has. And then they get REALLY aggressive and nasty.

Just when was this terrible thread that so traumitized Big Mick, anyway? And if he is such a big man with a huge heart, why is he so driven to seek such bloody revenge? I guess he just enjoys the cyber blood on the walls when he feels he can cyber assassinate people who dare to disagree with him.

And as to any conversation about Nader here, no way. It has been made perfectly clear that no pro-Nader threads will be tolerated either. Three posts into a Nader thread, and it is Thomas the Rhymer accusing the Guest Nader supporter of being a fed, supporting Bush. What is up with that?

For a group of people who claims to love democracy and who claims to be fair to all, this forum sure doesn't demonstrate it in daily practice. It has all become about winning through intimidation and Mudcat tribal warfare, with the Vietnam vets leading the charge.

I'm not complaining here either folks, just calling it the way I see it.

It is the culture of militarism in action on this forum.