Well at least you do have a sense of humour, GUEST,Ooh-Ahh, made me smile a little with the tissue paper. I also dislike intensely the attitudes you mention, so we can agree on that. But I don't consider them to be "Muslim" attitudes. The Japanese showed the same in WWII. The Christian Greeks also, when they "horseshoed" my great uncle in 1946. There is depravity, and there is religion. One rarely affects the other, I think.