What is appauling is this nit picking between "torture" and "abuse".

Both are unaceptable.

Torture is not a reliable means of gathering intelligence, bribary can be.

It appears the US of A has forgotten history.

Having said that bit I am not prepared to to enter any arguments on the morality of those who say, such as Despotic Governments in the Middle East, or "Freedom Fighters" in Ireland, who scream "torture" where Brits/ US of A are concerned, and have a different attitude towards thier own treatment of "dissidants" and "informers" - The word for that is Hypocracy (SP)

Gareth