one of the most heinous things about this whole mess is that this administration and dept. of defense are hiring out prisoner interrogation to private firms that are not accountable to military law. this is reprehensible and indicitive of the lack of control, lack of morality, and sheer callousness of these criminals. and that's what they are. of course the repubs want to spin it as "political, no big deal, it's being taken care of so get back to your SUVs and wal-mart shopping, etc." but it cuts to the core of the immorality of these crooks. nothing matters but their agenda.

the methods of humiliation used on the prisoners indicate a deeper understanding of muslim taboos than the privates and seargents, who never even heard of the geneva convention according to their words, could possibly have. in other words, they were told to do these things by some superior authority. did you notice in the senate hearings how, when questioned on the chain of command by mccain, rumsfeld asked his general in an aside "did we bring the chart we made up for that", the general replied " oh, no i forgot it!", rumsfeld goes "oh,my" and proceeds to evade the question mightily. could even a person as partisan as dougR, who maintains the competance and effectiveness of rumsfeld, believe that when coming to a hearing of this magnitude where this subject was so important and anticipated that they charted it out, that someone would "forget" it? c'mon.

if rumsfeld actually accepted responsibility for anything he would resign immediately. he's a liar and a criminal.