The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #69772   Message #1186403
Posted By: beardedbruce
15-May-04 - 05:04 PM
Thread Name: BS: Arafat: Terrorize your enemy.
Subject: RE: BS: Arafat: Terrorize your enemy.
CarolC:

"your "facts" are pretty much all over the map with regard to their accuracy. Some are accurate, and many are propaganda that has been proven false over the years, mostly as a result of the declassification of a lot of historical documents that had been held by the government of Israel up until a few years ago. "

PLEASE GIVE SOME SPECIFUIC INFORMATION THAT CAN BE VERIFIED!

"The Palestinians are not our enemies. They just want the occupation to end. "

ANYONE THAT CELEBRATES THE KILLING OF CIVILIANS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A GIVEN LOCATION , BECAUSE THAT LOCATION IS IN MY COUNTRY, IS MY ENEMY!

"Re: what your neighbor said. Prior to the establishment of the state of Israel, a Palestinian was anyone who was from the place called Palestine. There were Christian, Jewish, and Muslim Palestinians, many of whose ancestors had been living there for more than a thousand years. Now there are mostly just Christian and Muslim Palestinians (many of whose ancestors have been living there for more than a thousand years)."

AND WHY IS THAT???????????????????? See #7 of my list.


"the fact that there have been many times more Palestinian non-combatants killed (including children), by an order of about three to one, than Israeli Jewish non-combatants, would indicate one of two things... "

You have ignored the fact that there are other reasons. The Palestinians place military targets (HQ, Bomb factories, etc) in the midst of civilian areas, effectively using civilians as human shields. The reason that the number of Israeli civilian casualties is so low is the extreme value that the Israelis place on human life, as opposed to the blatent disregard that the Palestinians place on both their own and other's lives. There are not a whole lot of Israelis that strap on bombs, and go off to find parties and schools to blow up. A soldier who blows up a bomb-making plant, and accidentily kills a child who was brought there by the bomb-maker IS NOT the moral equivalent of the person who seeks out children and civilians exclusively to blow up.