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Thread #69772   Message #1186454
Posted By: beardedbruce
15-May-04 - 06:27 PM
Thread Name: BS: Arafat: Terrorize your enemy.
Subject: RE: BS: Arafat: Terrorize your enemy.
"they want to live in peace and prosperiety with their neighbors"

As long as the neighbors do not include any Jews. You seem quite willing to beleive the statements that you choose, but I hear a lot more from them that does not indicate any willingness to tolerate the existance of a Jewish state in any form. The Term "Palestinian Occupied Territories" has ALWAYS been a codeword for the state of Israel. They were offered chances for a peaceful settlement, and decided to continue armed conflict. I have more compassion for the children being killed than they do.

"There can be no peace with the Palestinians until they love their children more than they hate us."

Please address facts 5, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
You keep making blanket statements about what the Palestinians want, but WHAT HAVE THEY SAID to the rest of the Arab world, on Arabic language stations? Not a bit about the right of ANY Jews to esist in any place: Just that they will drive them into the sea. Look at the levels of casualties in simalar conflicts throughout the world- The Israelis have a MUCH LOWER fatality rate ( for Palestinians) than anywhere else- Far East, Africa, Western Asia. Yes, any innocent civilians killed are too many- BUT it happens to be a war crime to put bomb factories in refugee camps. Israel had the right to just blow away the entire camp- they CHOSE to go in, and in hand-to-hand combat take much higher casualties than needed to accomplish their goals. WHen I hear 1/10 the noise about the targetting of innocent civilians in Israel as I do about those civilians killed by accident in raids on military targets, I might be willing to listen to som discussion of what the Palestinians want.

As I said, when people celebrate civilians being killed just because they are in a specific country, those people are enimies of mine, and I would hope of all humane people.