The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #27229   Message #1187548
Posted By: Malcolm Douglas
17-May-04 - 09:50 PM
Thread Name: Tune Req: Raggle Taggle Gypsy Oh !
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Raggle Taggle Gypsy Oh !
We often find people wandering into an old, forgotten thread, usually the only one of several on the same subject that doesn't already contain the little nugget of information they possess. They then triumphantly post the tidbit, perhaps under the impression that they are making a worthwhile contribution to the world's sum of knowledge. It is probably unkind to point this out to them, but irresistable when they are aggressive or cocky.

I expect that "Bearheart" is right in this case, and "Megan deeth" (god knows why people use these annoying aliases. Are they ashamed of their given names?) didn't understand that the DT set was a completely different variant of the song; there are a great many.

Mind you, the DT file acknowledges no source, traditional or printed, for the text or tune; so some confusion is perfectly understandable. The note implies (probably by accident) that the text is from Scarborough, Song Catcher from the Southern Mountains (sic); it isn't, though. Far from it. Tune and text are exactly as published by Cecil Sharp in One Hundred English Folksongs (1916), which was a slight re-write (collated from other English variants he encountered) of a set got from Mrs Anna Pond (Somerset, 1904), combined with a tune from Mrs Emma Overd (also Somerset, 1904).

Planxty got "their" version from a much later recording of John Reilly (Co. Roscommon). The text is quite similar, though the initial stanzas differ a little. The tunes of both are very closely related.