I cannot but try to lighten this discussion a bit with a bit of humor--some you may know the story. Martin Gibson's post re: the wall reminded me of the story of the Rabbi who, for some,40 or so years has appeared every morning at the Western Wall and prayed devoutly. A lady living nearby with a few of the Wall and him went to him one day and asked---"what are you praying for all these years--and everyday?". The Rabbi replied---"there should be peace amongst us all" "So (asks the lady)--how do you feel still nothing has happened to answer your prayers?"   The Rabbi: "Like I am talking to a F---g Wall."


Bill Hahn