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Thread #69485   Message #1192700
Posted By: GUEST
24-May-04 - 10:05 AM
Thread Name: BS: It is TORTURE not 'abuse'!!!
Subject: RE: BS: It is TORTURE not 'abuse'!!!
Two bears,

Two bears,

Before 9/11 there were quite a few terrorists who wanted to lash out at the US, most of them were unable to do so. The World trade center and Pentegon were in the main attacked by Saudis. There was no Iraqi hijackers.

The US led invasion of Iraq has created many more terrorists, and has provided a battle ground for those non-Iraqi terrrorists who would have liked to hit the US but were unable to do so and now the heavy handed US policy is creating more.

So in trying to arrest and kill those who have decided to become "terrorists" just how many innocents is it acceptable to kill, maim or torture to get the result you desire. With each ugly act, another Iraqi may well decide that enough is enough in his country and there you have another ready made fighter that you will have to root out.

If you think you can destroy such terrorist networks then look to the British experience in Northern Ireland, they had succeses but they had many more faliures, and that in a country that shared a lot more than Iraq and the US do in term of Language and culture.

So what do we do then Two bears, kill em , let God sort em out, a bit of t-shirt philosophy maybe. Bomb em back into the stone age may sound good in a movie but it rarely works in real life, not unless you want to perpetuate the problem. Just look at Israel and the Palestinians, an endless round of tit for tat killings that achieves nothing except to show how barbaric they can both be. Is that your way ahead?

And if they do believe they are being directed by God to kill those they feel are opressing them, look again at the torture film/pictures and ask yourself how you would feel if it was your family or friends being treated so. Would you feel so full of rage you had to pick up your weapon or would your range of disciplines enable you to forgive those involved and give them all a big hug?