Hi what an intresting thread. I have had a 12 string for some 15 years and loved it. it is an old Eko and still going well, but I now also own a Takamine 12 which has moved my playing on in leaps. I also have tryed most capos even tryed to make one but am now sold on the Schubb's 12 it works every time. I also agree with Davey dont knock people who chose to capo or standard tunning its about playing your way that matters.KD