brucie said, as McGrath also noted:

"It should not be used as a training method. But, it isn't that I'm aware of."

AGAIN brucie shoots off his mouth without engaging his brain. As is his usual practice here, brucie didn't bother to read the article linked to in the opening post of the thread. He just decided to leap in and start shooting off his mouth.

It's getting really tiresome.

The point of this thread was that the torture taking place wasn't an aberration, it was a Bush administration policy, taken from the CIA manuals of previous administrations.

The referendum on the use of torture was settled internationally when the Geneva Conventions were adopted. The US is a signatory. That means we don't have the option of using torture on prisoners. Even if it would be to our benefit to do so. Period. There is no debate. There are only violations of the Geneva Conventions, and war crimes. It appears the US is guilty of both.