What they can, and can't do was addressed publicly today. They have, in essence, set the standard for acceptable torture. Not exactly a noble exercise, but at least as Americans we have a public statement we can hold them to, or at least try to. I feel like you and I are off on the wrong foot. I agree with you that apologies are worded vaguely and that the torture was deplorable, counter-productive and idiotic; that is why I remain convinced that the stuff they did at Abu Graib (sp?) is more the work of localized yahoos, tolerated by an inept general.