Other than the torture, what bothers me maost about the recent revelation is the pattern of *lieing* on the Bush administrations part. They go to the Supreme Court and tell Justice Kennedy that they willlive up to all international agreements and then brak them, then lie about it and when caught lie some more and then when confronted with producing documents that might expose the lies they pull a Nixon on us!!! Ashcroft, who clearly is not only in Contempt of Congress but in Contempt of Humanity as well says "screw you, commies, you ain't getting nuthin' but what I want to give you..."

I wish the Democrats had the backbone to push to have Ashcroft (and possibly Bush) held in Contemp of Congress, for there is no doubt that both are guilty to the bone...

Bobert