the trouble with fans is demonstrated very clearly on this page.

if you point out that Christianity(perm any three religious leaders) or Karl marx has lead to millions of murders and horrific violence - and the true fan says - ah yes but Cristianity or true Marxism has never been tried......

When you say football is rubbish, given the millions we have to pay to protect ourselves from the fans, the endless tripe talked about it, the awful public conduct of many of the players..... they ah but true football is a wonderful thing, it's just never been tried......