"BeardedBruce, I'm not the one posting saccharin poetry by the yard."

No, you seem to specialize in personal attacks and intellectual dishonesty.




" but your reasoning is amazingly shallow and you have all of the charm of a festering boil when you decide to make a stand on any given thread. "

And when I try to have a discussion of facts you resort to personal insult and trolling.




"People have given ample and consistently solid supporting material to show why your arguments are nonsense. "

Some have given reasonable discussion, but you have not. To those who present reasonable discussion, I will concede what the facts show- but I expect the same courtesy from them, when my facts are presented.




"They've gone out of their way to explain clearly and in great detail what the problems are with the argument you're presenting. "

Your only explainations have been that I was wrong- with no supporting facts, or refutation of what I had presented.



"Their sources are mainstream and reliable (do you equate "reliable" with "liberal?"). Yet you bluster along and continue the argument by ignoring the facts and stating and restating your opinion.

I considerr all the facts as presented by reasonable people. Perhaps I should use your own SRS standard, and throw out anything that comes from a source I might not agree with, but I try to balance the ovbvious bias of all sources byt looking at the facts, not just my opinion of what should be.





"If someone doesn't repeat and respond to every point you try to make, you come up with the obnoxious and self-serving rejoinder along the lines of "since you didn't respond to this point I will presume that you think I'm right."

This may be true- when someone like you responds to a request for facts with only personal attack, and statements that any fact that is not from the "proper" source does not even need to be looked at, I am tempted to believe that you have no real arguement, and are conceding by your actions.




"You presume way too much, fella, and you test the patience of a lot of good people who have been polite to you far longer than you deserve. "

I had presumed that one might be able to have an adult discussion of the facts. It seems that I am mistaken in your case- If this has tested anyone else's patience, I regret that, and apologize to them.