Brando, Debra Winger, Garbo, Sterling Hayden, Robert Mitchum (to a degree)--- Orson Wells as well: These all saw through the shallow banality that was and is Hollywood. In seeking their privacy, they were often ridiculed, made fun of, and denegrated. I found admirable qualities in the different stands that were taken by each of them in their own way. The Winger tale is still forming and being told. -- Many of us on the folk scene can fully understand the desire to avoid the show biz machinery. And we chose to do it differently while accepting the loss of monetary income that went with that choice. Of course, the secular humanistic spiritual income we banked was considerable.