Personally, I loathe GSTQ. I think it's a dirge. *s* A response to Gayle Atkin-Martin, who says: "...hopefully we will rise again and get the brits off of ours and ireland and wales backs. They don't need to be in charge of anyone but themselves these days." 'Brits' includes Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales. If by 'Brits' you mean the English, then have a close look at the process of devolution going on right now. Many English people would cheerfully dissolve the United Kingdom entirely and let Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland go their own way; as things stand at the moment, the English taxpayer makes a huge net contribution to the economies of those areas. Independence is a twin-edged sword. It's all a moot point anyway, as European Union is going to make all the old territorial groupings meaningless.