Gargoyle, you have succeed in driving me out--I am not posting anything more to this thread and maybe just keeping my mouth shut about music theory in general--it isn't particularly easy to explain stuff, as least to explain it in a way that has some useful meaning, and I shouldn't have to put up with slurs as to my motives when I do it--

As to motives, I am inclined to question yours, since it does't help anyone to understand music any better to when your contribution is wrapped in an insult to other people who are trying to contribute--

In re-reading, I can't help but notice that the people you seem to direct your scorn, derision, and insults toward are men, and particularly men who have a degree of musical expertise and knowledge--

Enough said--