Exactly, Saul. That's what I was trying to say when I said a holistic solution is needed.

I've noticed that there is very, very rarely a truly simple solution to any problem, no matter WHAT the politicians say or what we'd like to believe.

As for totin' guns openly...no, I don't agree with it. All you're doing then is bragging that you can. You can do that in Idaho, too, but it's very rarely done. (I exempt cops, historical reenactments, and such.)