Sperm isn't white, it's sort of creamy-colored, kind of off-white like ivory. The fact that Martin Gibson doesn't know this indicates he has lived a much more sheltered life than I had thought. No wonder he has so much unfocused hostility. If I was a member of Mudcat, Marty, I would PM you and explain how you can get some experience in this area of life, through a simple means of self-manipulation that is quite easy to master once one understands the basic concept. I figure once you know how to do it you'll probably spend only about 1 tenth the time on Mudcat that you do now.