well, Rapaire, I do agree that the discussion, like MANY debates here, gets wearing and followed by only a few...but...*sigh*...you did toss in one more misleading statistic.

30,000 deaths a year is a much larger % of the total deaths...and a VERY high % of the needless & preventable deaths. If were were discussing cigarette smoking I'd say similar things, and I am not arguing with you, personally, but only leaving MY thoughts out here just in case they cause someone to think.. (Max swears that Mudcat will be around a long time...who knows what our discussions will inspire 20 years from now?..*grin*)