No problem GUEST Blackcatter at work....I still very much feel as though I am finding my way round here and the way to do it is to get involved. Sorry if that doesn't fit with your criteria but that's just me. Get put in my place a few times for whatever...have my signing off questioned....take insults from Martin Gibson....have PM's from people who tell me the things they said on the thread were only for effect....find a few people who are trading conversation honestly and openly....I am still learning about the Cat..I don't have your experience of it but am sure finding mine. Be Blessed.