It is also instructive to point out that GUEST is attempting, either through ignorance or intent, to muddy up the understanding of what the convention is. It is not, in these times, the place that the democracy of choosing occurs. Historically it was, but in the electronic age the caucuses/primaries have taken that over. The convention is the celebration, the victory party, so to speak. Sometimes there is a fight, but it is usually over party platform.

Before old grumpy from the north gets going about how democracy has gone to hell, let's not forget the spirited debates here on Mudcat as the various candidates vigorously debated their agenda. And Kerry won. That, of course, is what really bothers our bitter friend. Her guys got waxed. Nader has reduced himself to a deal with the devil in the use of Republican surrogates to get his petition signed. If GUEST were honest, which isn't the case, s/he would admit that Nader is prostituting himself to the Republicans. And if you don't believe that a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush, then ask yourself why the Republican machine is putting the money and volunteers into his campaign.

Mick