"GUEST's comments, judging from his or her comments on other threads, are to be expected. They could have even been written before he or she heard Kerry's speech."

Right Don, and so could yours and all the other totally predictable comments coming from the people here who intended to vote for Kerry before the speech was made--they all heard what they wanted to hear too.

How many millions of dollars have now gone done the toilet trying to change peoples' minds, without any minds being changed? The poll numbers remain virtually unchanged. Television advertising to date on the presidential election to date (from all sources, not just the candidates) is about a half billion dollars. And nothing changed the day after the speech. Nor will it after Bush's acceptance speech in September.

Which rather suggests, the entire exercise is a sham, and there just might be something truly fucked up with this system, doesn't it?

Kills me the lengths you all go to in order to justify your sanctimonious participation in what is a huge sham.

Me, I figure that money could be much better spent in a zillion places, but hey--I know nothing works better than the illusion of voting being a democratic process in a global capitalist state.

So touche to you too.