Wolfgang's monism says matter and spirit are the same, LH's says spirit & matter are the same, mine says spirit and matter (or matter and spirit) are parts of the same thing. Are we sure that's three different opinions?

I think a lot of the confusion here is semantic. For instance, in English "rainbow" is a noun, but it's "really" a verb. The color stripes are static, but the drops that form them are constantly moving. A person standing beside you will see the rainbow in a slightly different place. You can't say it's in any particular place, just within a range of places, and you can't really say it's a "thing." Still, you can take a photograph of it, so it "exists." But not the same way a rock exists.

Spiritual things are more like rainbows than rocks.

If you get what I mean.

clint

It DOES make a difference what your definition of "is" is.