well, all I can say is that we are simply not using 'faith' and 'belief' the same way. My 'belief' that my statement is correct as it stands is really not the same sort of thing as belief IN a phenomenon.

I believe that I can't grab a handful of moonbeams also...and I guess I shouldn't believe it's impossible until all possible attempts have been made?

the obvious truth of the statement "no-one has yet done this to (my) satisfaction" does not INCREASE the probability that it is possible.

If we are free to just use logic and the scientific method on the experiences we choose and rely on other criteria when we don't like the implications of science, where are we? I'm sure that if there WAS good scientific basis for paranormal phenomena, science would be touted highly..*wry grin*...it's only when science can't give the desired results that some say, "oh, that falls outside the purview of science. We experience that in ways that, by their nature can't be measured."

Well, as I have said about 27 times on such subjects, I'd love to be proved wrong! If someone finds a gene for telepathy, precognition and recognition of auras, I want a transplant!