Ake, you wrote:
This role reversal is what I dislike about the Gay Movement its now at the stage of Gay being Good and any other opinion a perversion.

I don't really see gay people saying gay is good or bad. They are mostly saying "give us our civil rights." And, "any other position is bigotry." OK, I often say that anti-gay folks are perverted. You seem to have an unhealthy interest in other people's sex lives. Yes, that's a perversion in my book.

Im no right winger ,nor am I a bigot,but to my mind, many of these unfortunate people are battling, not "Straight society", but their own psychological problems.
I very much agree with Daylai.   We need to find out a lot more about this condition ,before entrusting children to unstable people.

No one who has actually studied the issue (like the entire mainstream medical and psychological establishment) has beleieved for many years that homosexuality is a condition or an unstability. Perhaps it would be good for you to learn something about it before you claim to be not bigoted.

Iv four boys (now men), whom I taught to respect people of all creeds and colours, and although surrounded by religious bigotry here in Scotland, they grew up fine people,and Im very proud of them.

Try this: everytime you think "gay", substitute the word "black" or "woman" or "Arab" in whatever your sentence was and you might start to understand why folks are calling you a bigot.

The blacks in London were as vicious and arrogant as the whites in America had been in the 60s.

Really? All of them? Every last one? Are you sure you're not bigoted against them as well?

They would not speak other than to abuse,used their colour as a sign of superiority, and he was even spat upon in the street for being white,exactly the condition Little Hawk describes so well in his post,roles reversed,a different kind of hatred but just as corrosive.
Bruce got over his experience but idealism has now been replaced with a cynicism more suited to "us oldies".

Of course there are going to be people who, after being societally abused for so many years, are going to fight fire with fire. Do you really think they represent the vast majority of gay folks, or black folks, or women, or whatever group you're talking about at the moment? Don't you know that generalizing from the individual to the group as a whole is one of the hallmarks of bigotry? Are you blaming all gay people -- and saying they should be legally kept down -- because there are gay activists who are also jerks?

Anyone who says he is not a bigot and has helped his children overcome the bigotry that surrounded them as they grew up has to have spent some real time doing some deep soul searching in order to have escaped that bigotry himself. I urge you engage in that process on the subject of gay people. Please don't assume you know what they are or what they want, and really don't assume you know what's best for them. Try to put yourself in their shoes and imagine what it would feel like to have been born gay in our society. Try to imagine what it would feel like if there were laws against you raising your sons.

John Peekstok