Martin Gibson, you've made it clear that you know a lot of offensive hot-button terms to slather over the thread as it degenerates into a flame war.

You don't contribute anything useful, you're trolling and relishing the angry responses as part of a personal power struggle, to see if you can pervert the substantive discussion to your lowest common denominator of name calling and verbal blows. Between your adolescent approach to human sexuality and daylia's smug pronouncements based on flimsy evidence and no critical thought, you are perfect candidates for Little Hawk's proposed trip to the Jerry Springer Show. But Little Hawk will have to count this woman out of that trip--invite akenatan instead, so it will truly be a panel of your peers. You don't want sound reasoning, you want a shit-slinging brawl.

SRS