Methinks the problem comes in when people regard matter and spirit as two separate and distinct things, sort of like—well—two different kinds of matter. There's solid matter (knock on the table top), and we all know what that is: the earth, the sun, fish and chips, the guitar in its case in the other room, the keyboard I'm typing on, the dust bunnies under the bed, etc.; and then there's this other thing that we've heard about called "spirit," and we don't know quite what it is, but it seems to be sort of fuzzy, and we can't see it, but just as we're almost about to grasp a clear idea of it, it slips away again. Like another world (sort of), but there's an obscuring veil that makes it next to impossible to distinguish.

My idea (". . . until the times do alter. . . ."):   the musical instrument, the hands that play it, the specific vibrations in the air, the ears you hear the vibrations with, that is all matter. The music is spirit.

Your body and all those things around you are matter. Your life is spirit.

Most people assume that "matter" and "spirit" are both nouns. "Matter" is a noun. And (no matter what the dictionary says) "spirit" is a verb.

That's what makes the whole thing elusive, difficult to grasp.

Don Firth

P. S.:   Anybody buy this? I think it works.