Hey, lucky: Pinewoods... never been there, so it couldn't a been me. I did go to Indian Neck many times, back around 25 years ago, though. Nice to be remembered, anyway :-)

I am enjoying this thread. When I started it, it wasn't real clearly defined, like more specific threads I participate in, or start. That seems to have allowed this thread to amble along as more of a conversation than a diatribe.

As for tomatoes, they should do a test in the not so supermarkets in the vegetable section. Blindfold the shoppers, have them take a bite out of a tomato and see if they can identify what the vegetable is. Much the same for fruits. They want to keep the fruit on the shelf so long now that it won't be much longer before they ship them as seeds. It's a real crap shoot to get food that tastes like it looks, anymore.

Hey, Bobert... maybe you can be on the cutting edge of the produce industry. Ship people fresh tomato seeds.

Jerry