Tried to post this a couple of hours ago...trying again:

daylia, you posted:

I think I understand exactly how such parental "wanna-bes" would feel. If I were a lesbian for example, and stuck with the fact that I couldn't have kids the natural way, I might be thinking something like "NOT FAIR! WHAT AN UNENLIGHTENED, IDIOTIC, "MOOT" BIGOT NATURE IS! It's so good there's all this new technology, all these orphaned unwanted babies and politically correct bandstanders out there these days - now I can still get exactly what I THINK I want!

I know any kid I'd procure has a 99% chance of enduring a lifetime of psychological difficulties and social abuse, possibly even physical violence because of me and my lifestyle. But lots of gays, blacks, Jews etc pay that price - so what? The kid might even end up committing suicide if it can't handle the pressures of having me as a parent. WHo cares? Lots of kids blow themselves away anyhow.

I want it, that's what's most important. I'm gonna "LOOOOOOVE" it so much and be so very "kind" and "respectful" to it! Wife beaters, child abusers, pedophiles, drunks, crack addicts etc have kids, therefore so can I. I'm gonna get exactly what I want, right now, and no one can take that right away from me."

You later say that hypothetical situation is based on a lifetime of experience. It seems it has been a very narrow experience, judging from my own lifetime of experience. I have never known any lesbians who have "thought" that way about wanting a child or not.

Cluin...right on!

Ake: Lighten up a little, willya? **bg** Queer Eye for the Straight Guy is an American tv show and it is all tongue-in-cheek. The gays camp it up for the fun of it. The straight guys sign up for it, obviously enjoy it and are in the mighty majority, so it is not seen as threatening. And, it has helped to break down some barriers for straight guys in liberating them to openly care about their personal appearance, including facial, hair, and nail care without seeming *swishy!*