You know, there's something that happens in these kind of discussions, and it interferes with the process. This is it:

Due to an initial disagreement over some specific issue a particular Mudcatter (or several Mudcatters) decide that someone else on the forum is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG (due to something they said in a particular post)...and they henceforth pounce on each succeeding post by that person with little or no goodwill, no real intent to understand what the person said, but a set resolve to use it to continue proving how wrong and completely off the beam that person is. This is not conducive to a healthy dialogue. :-)

It becomes emotional lockstep rather than a serious effort to discuss things fairly. It becomes a habit.

Now, some people did that to Akenaton a long way back in this thread...and some are doing it to daylia every time she posts. I won't name names. :-)

Take another look, people. I know daylia. She is a very sensible, very likeable person who has had a lot of tough experience with the down side of life, yet gotten through it in one piece somehow, and raised 3 sons who have turned out to be really nice people without the help of a reliable partner, and done it all by teaching piano lessons to a great many young students (she is a superb piano player and instructor). She is not the bigoted figure of your fantasies, regardless of whether or not you happen to disagree with something she said in some post earlier in this thread. She does not deserve to be on trial here.

And neither is Akenaton the bigoted person he has been accused of being, as far as I can see, having read his posts with some attention.

In other words, folks, you're crying wolf here. It's a pity, because there ARE real bigots and gaybashers out there whom you could be directing all this ire towards instead of at daylia and/or Akenaton.

I also know the 20 year old gay man that daylia spoke of, and he is indeed brilliant in a number of respects, very likeable, and pretty naive at this point in his general expectations of life. That's common in 20 year olds. I hope he does well in life and avoids the worse pitfalls along the way. He has tremendous potential if he uses it wisely.

(talk about a lively thread...!)