The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #72485   Message #1250501
Posted By: Little Hawk
18-Aug-04 - 01:03 PM
Thread Name: BS: Things I know about consciousness
Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
Dewey, I think you are absolutely correct on all points. The discipline of meditation is applied in most Eastern spiritual disciplines to reach that universal source of intelligence you are referring to. This is done by first quieting the restless body (somewhat difficult for many, very difficult for some), then quieting the restless mind (very difficult for almost everyone).

It is because people cannot quiet their minds that they have great difficulty reaching their higher sources of intelligence. If they do reach those sources they find great peace, great love, great inspiration, great self-knowledge, calm confidence in one's own goodness, the goodness of others, and the goodness of life...and truly brilliant possibilities in every area of life.

I am just a beginner at meditation, because I have a very busy, restless mind that doesn't particularly want to submit to being quieted for a bit! I am just beginning to appreciate how beneficial it can be to quiet that mind and tap into something enormously more powerful and effective.

A lot of people are going to think you're crazy. Others are going to pounce gleefully on your spelling errors, saying "Universal Mind can't spell. LOL!" but, it's of no consequence if they do. They have a perfect right to interpret reality as it suits them...and they will.

Wolfgang - I understand your point. Yes, if one finds a mover behind the World, then what moves the mover? And so on... Well, Wolfgang, there is always going to be a prior something that we cannot explain. It is impossible for human beings to ever come up with a total explanation of the Infinite or of the Timeless. What is important is to work with the whole system around us effectively, rather than to determine what the original cause of everything is. It's a living system. We will never sort out the original cause, because if it does (or did) exist at all it exists outside of the perceivable things and events that we are capable of observing through our physical senses.

Therefore, it is not actually the kind of thing one would look for with the type of scientific disciplines you like working with. It relates to them in countless ways, but it is not reachable through them. The terminology used to allude to it, likewise, would not exactly be the usual scientific kind of terminology, but more likely the kind of words found in some poetry.

Science is just one area of inquiry in the greater field of what we call Life. It doesn't suffice to cover everything nor should it be expected to.