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Thread #72325   Message #1251629
Posted By: GUEST,Fred Miller
20-Aug-04 - 12:28 AM
Thread Name: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
Good point J from H. But maybe the friggin' thread could be used to address the friggin' subject. It matters. It's not so easy. Heterosexual marriage and family is up there with the ancient verities, as Faulkner called them. It's a big friggin' deal, after all, isn't it? Here it is knocking at the door. It's not hunger, granted, but it is what it is. The Norm--it's not easy and natural, people work very hard to uphold it, as a value in their lives, and here come very different terms. It matters.

I've come down pro, completely pro, I hardly see the point in debating it much, except when people call me unthinkingly pc and bolster it with a bunch of evasive pc counter-crap. But I don't come down so hard that I blame people, too much, for reservations. Because of my religious upbringing. I was raised as a science experiment. So what do I know about it.

On the other hand, I think the trouble with calling people bigots, is... I don't know, aren't we? to some extent, most of us? A bit? No? Okay... the crickets are with me. I guess it's just me. Me and the crickets. I guess we finally found the equivalent of the N-word among white people. Fashizzle m'bigotizzle, dog.

The problem here, is e-mail. One writes as one speaks, and then it's there, like you actually WROTE it. Fuck. Some people speak as though they're writing, others, are like me. I thought I heard a backing away from squabble into mock-squabble, but it doesn't go over. Well, screw it, I enjoyed it. I don't know if my tone was taken and I'm embarrassed--o' well. I'll live.

It's not that bad, is it? You can hear more vulgar more vicious things anywhere, on the news, on talk shows. We're not pros, most of us, let us screw up a bit. Or the whole point of an open forum is no point at all. What a stupid waste. Am I the only person who thinks everyone is being pretty reasonable, in their own ways? Yes, people say things like that to each other. I can't think of a person I actually love that I haven't said worse to. Okay, one. No, three, I hope. But out of many more than three.