By the way, GUEST, lest you persist in your delusion that I am a pro-Kerry extremist, here is a response I made to Bobert today on another thread:

Bobert,

As you know, I agree with you on much of this, and wish the Dem nomination had turned out differently. I just believe in the "burning house" theory at the moment, and see voting for Kerry as a form of triage.

I was, in fact, an enthusiastic Dean supporter, and Bobert and I found common ground on that back when Dean was in the race. Kucinich's ideals were closest to my own, but his views of what he could accomplish were, in my opinion, unrealistic.

(Dean's appearance on the Daily Show was not as good as Kerry's, though!)

I think Nader was either delusional or lying, for saying that there was no difference between Bush and Gore, and again for saying that he expects to draw off more of Bush's voters than Kerry's. I also think he would be absolutely stonewalled by Congress and thus become the least effective president in many years. He has many admirable qualities, but I don't want him to be president and he has no chance in any case.

I don't know the first thing about Cobb. Why don't you start a thread about how great he is...or did I miss it?