Bobert, those were some great posts.

I've been so outraged by Bush's trampling of the Constitution and spending 2 generations treasure on his whim-war, I was ready to vote for Kerry just to get him out. But I see from Kerry no leadership, no decisiveness, no willingness to be wrong, no conviction whatsoever.   He's accomplished nothing in the Senate and he's going to accomplish nothing as President.

The two parties are corrupt extensions of corporation and wealthy people's selfish wishes. They have the ignorant bamboozled into thinking their two parties are part of our government structure and they have set up Congress to guarantee they never 'evolve' because they have a guaranteed duopoly.   Until some equally wealthy powers start promoting the idea of big third parties and real anti-corruption and anti-duopoly legislation, nothing is going to change and it really doesn't matter who you vote for.

It is a darn shame one party or the other can't choose to 'go straight', there are an awful lot of people who don't vote now that would come out and vote for an honest choice. And a bigger pity that Nader and Perot both let their big fat egos lead the lost down a blind path instead of towards a major third party.