"Yet again, GUEST 11:15 AM complained at how horrible the Mudcat is - yet the idiot won't leave"

Well shucky darns boy. I forgot to put my "name" up there. Idiot? You're the idiot. You are typical of many here who simply believe they are the ones with the only valid answers. I know I have no "valid" answers - but facts speak for themselves. And if you can't speak to the facts then I would encourage you to ignore your own poll. What I posted to was facts.

It's like the law. Does the law prevent law beakers? No. But the POSSIBILITY of paying a price for abherent behavior keeps those on the margins within the parameters of normal. And there are very few parameters of normal here.

An example: A few years ago I got into an argument with some of the more "colorful" characters on this forum. Was told I should have been sterilized at birth. I didn't respond very well and a bunch of my Marine Brothers came over and raised cain for a day on the board. What a bunch of whining from the status quo here about that.

I'll admit I most likely should not have done that. Came back and apologized for it a while back too. But of those involved in that diatribe I was the only one who apologized. The rest of the folks that were as ignorant, or worse than I, continued to be idiots and self-sanctified that they had done no wrong. Therefore no apologies for their behavior.

Far as I am concerned it's no biggy anymore. But it still typifies the behavior.

Compassion is a trait that is not well represented here. Once again that is my opinion only. I would not post here about personal loss, national tragedy, or anything that would be in need of folks to empathise with the situation. Some folks here would start to be there and caring - then the rest of the, let me quote you here, "idiots" would make it so miserable for the poster and the problems that they were struggling with would be better off going to KKK rally advocating for black membership. (That's an analogy for us idiots that don't speak real well)

And this thread is as good an example of that trait on Mudcat as any.

So as to your poll. It's a useless excuse to beat others, GUESTs included, for what doesn't fit with your idea of what should be.

My name is Steve Neff, my handle is Norton1, and if you want to talk to me PM me and I'll give you my phone number. Though I doubt that a direct communication is of any more importance to you than anyone else who hides here and villifies others for what they say. Even though the poll suggests that no one wants to have their behavior monitored/modified from an external rationale. Might infringe on their ability to be assholes from time to time.

And let me be clear that I am one of those that has exceeded the bondaries on occasion. No matter how well provoked by others. Made my apoloiges for that - I screw up I will apologize.

Oh yeah - watch the crap now - right after I was told I should have been sterilized at birth our 19 year old son put a rifle under his chin and shot himself to death. Try holding the hand of one of your kids as the life leaks out of him. I thought of a lot of things I'd done wrong in my life. Maybe they, the villifiers, knew more than I did about the future. But I can assure you the folks involved in that little mess had nothing to do with the loss of our son. But it sure put their aversive behavior in perspective for me.

So post away GUEST:Blackcatter. Pretty funny - GUEST condemns GUEST - it still does not mean a darn thing. And really good folks like Jerry, Spaw, and a few others that made the board fun and sincere appear to not agree with you in fact - but I'll bet in principle their simple good hearted nature could no longer tolerate folks of your ilk that advocate change for a nicer board and in that same thread bash others.

Be well and God Bless -
Steve "Norton1" Neff