some of us are descended from those who consumed high volumes of meat, dairy products, etc., such as Eskimos, Swiss etc. Some of us are descended from grain-eaters, or fruit eaters. we would probably be well advised to follow their patterns if we are of some particular ethnic stock, and there is a healthy diet that results in longevity etc. We can't philosophize our way into finding the right diet for us. If we are this single ethnic stock, and most of us are not, we can start with that. I am amazed that people get all excited finding that Greeks do well on the Greek diet, Chinese do well on the Chinese diet etc. Well of course. Those who did not adapt probably died before reproducing. It has been said by many doctors that the unhealthiest people are those who need high protein and/or high fats in their diets and do not get them. This can lead to diabetes, heart problems, alcoholism, you name it. Read the metabolic body typing diet, or some such name. Anything by Dr. Bernstein on diabetes, anything by Dr. Schwarzbein on diabetes. Follow the insulin links and the cortisol links. The information is out there now. People can confirm it with various medical tests, and test glucose at home. If you need meat, you need meat. if you need fat, you need fat. Don't let others dictate to you. It will be extremely hard to get good information on this but keep trying. I certainly don't know for myself because i am certainly overweight, but if I ate all the complex carbs people wanted me to I would weight 300 lbs. and be in a coma most of the day. mg