By the way, I really don't want this to turn into a discussion of Israel, so can we just say that the whole issue was a sideline to the original point? Regardless of whether you think Israel was the agressor or not, as Wolfgang says, it's just a European poll, and does not express the opinion of either Charley Reese or Guest, Frank. Therefore it's not really relevant to this thread, which should be about conservatives turning against Bush. So by all means, if you want to discuss Israel we can do so. But please start another thread.

To get this one back on course, I have heard that the very conservative Lou Dobbs of CNN has also been converted to the anti-Bush side. Does anyone have more information on this?