Ebbie, it may be that the opinions held by most 'old geezers' are formed by a lifetime of experience. Isn't that something that ought to be taken into consideration? It was respected in a less sophisticated society.

I'm really not having a go at you personally, just pointing out that the opinions of the young/PC/feminine/apologist/whatever are still just opinions, and not yet backed up by a lifetime of experience.

The thrust of this thread is that 'Fings ain't wot they used to be,' and anyone who thinks today is a hopeful as when I was young, just wasn't young then.