CarolC: How will you differentiate between "anger" and "pain?" I'm not at all adverse to making people angry (Bush Republicans come to mind) and that could be painful for them. I'm not about to argue with some 96 year old lady who has been a model citizen all her life and thinks the President can do no wrong; but I have no problem in causing anger and yes, pain, in some slimeball like Sen. Sam Brownback.