I started this thread because I was shocked and horrified by the thought of so many women mand and of course children being held hostage in a situation which was never likely to have a good outcome due to the nature of Russian military response in such situations.

The events of last Friday proved what I felt and only served to increase my revulsion at the people who carried this out and the attempts by the Russians yet again to cover up and mislead.

The reports I have read have increased the horror of it all as the families of the victims are seemingly getting little help, some are still trying to find missing relatives and the injured are in hospitals where medical aid is stretched to the limits.

Then when I see people using the thread to start a rather tasteless little flaming/trolling game I feel like giving up the ghost.

I doubt any sound and well thought out views from MC members on the situation will have any real affect, but you never know, ripples spread quickly across a calm pond. If the pond is disturbed then the ripples go nowhere.