Could I point out that for all the sound and fury of TwoBears frequent posts, and his long lists of 'FACT's he is STILL only offering personal anecdotes to back himself up.

Ooh Aah:
Personal experiences are all that I have to share at this time.

The fact that these are very personal and intensly sentimental suggests that he is practicing a common form of emotional blackmail among believers- 'challenge my beliefs and you are making a personal attack on me, so I have the right to get VERY UPSET'

Would you please care to offer one instance where *I* said that?

Two Bears, you understand little outside of your field. He surely wouldn't accept it if the 'levitation' was only shown under conditions where fraud is possible. But if he was allowed to study closely and make some quick tests, the matter would be completely different. Have you ever asked yourself why supposedly paranormal stunts are done under bad viewing condition, with no checks, are not done repeatedly etc? Well, that's are the conditions under which prestidigitators work.

Wolfgang; read my post to Mack about the proper way to test the paranormal (examine the room immediately AFTER the incident for signs of fakery). Just because Randi discovers a way to fake it via illusion does NOT mean the medium was a fake.

ANL - 2B