To your credit, Ron, no one can charge you of being inconsistent. To your dying day you will declare that Bush did not get a bounce in the polls despite reports to the contrary. Sometimes we want results that please us so bad we come to believe that is what we got.

Wolfgang: thanks for posting that column from The Guardian. It is so refreshing to see a columnist admit his political leanings.

And Grog: You continue to prove that you cannot be swayed by facts.

Greg F: you saw the Michael Moore movie didn't you? You share Moore's belief that the American people are dumb. Pathetic.

DougR