Actually Robin, this has some relevance to the whole general discussion. There is a tendency to excuse immoral acts by people whose cause we support but condemn similar actions by those we are opposed to. Which is why, I guess, that they say "History is written by the victors"!

But, to get back on track, it would be nice to see an "external event" that worked in favour of Labour for a change. Now, there is a good phrase... I'm all for a change!!!!

Dave