Roger Please continue to discuss this issue, this as far as I and many others are concerned is what mudcat is about, discusion!!!!! To continue with the discussion, as I remember it many years ago any morris man whose side was not dancing at whitby brought his kit and danced with the scratch in his sides kit but still wore his sides kit with pride, this was a colurful and proffesional experiance. As I percive it now the ethos of the scratch side has changed in so much as the individuals do not dance in their sides kit but in "civvys" (some collectors would argue that this is the correct way)with a scratch T shirt. The question to the scratch people is, should the side go back to what I believe was the origanal concept of dancing in your sides kit? Keith