Greg and Joy,

There is only ONE Pionke!!! But this one is a guest and I cannot be certain -- as nobody can really be sure that I am actually Art Thieme ;-)

I mentioned "Earl" in my reply to the post from Pionke. I did that because, the man himself, EARL PIONKE, was and is THE EARL OF OLD TOWN---owner and head man at the folk club in Chicago with that name where Steve Goodman and Tom Dundee, Fred Holstein and Bob Gibson and and Bonnie Koloc and even I used to Play---along with so many others. That's where Fred Holstein and I took a wasted Johnny Cash one strange Sunday night. I'd be willing to bet that Hildebrand might've gone there a few times.---But I'm just guessing... ;-)

Art Thieme