And what makes you think that ordinary conception is not immaculate, Martin? Or that the term "immaculate conception" may not refer to a spiritual aspect of the conception rather than a physical one? Or that any human being might be termed "son of God" or "daughter of God", therefore Jesus' title may be getting misinterpreted by certain exclusive-minded people to mean something other than what it was intended to mean.

I assert to you, Martin, that EVERY living human being is the son or daughter of God...and that this is part of Jesus' actual message. So you're on good ground there calling him an ordinary man...but he had an extraordinary degree of awareness of what he was. That's something most ordinary men do not have.